Two sides of a coin

[dieastra]

When I saw this picture of William Shatner on a recent convention in Las Vegas, I suddenly had a déjà vu. The credit for the left picture by Ferry Teunisse is on the pic, the right picture of Richard Dean Anderson was taken by my friend Paya at Gatecon 2008. Posted with her permission.
What do you think? Two sides of a coin?

Comments

[wanderingsmith.livejournal.com]

he is way more active
I don't put spend much time researching actors' lives, even if they put them on display, but I do remember that a few years ago he had a nasty problem with his foot and was in severe pain.. not so sure was something that was 'fixed'

So what exactly is he being accused of?
speaking only for myself, only of having a public persona that is.. edgy. a little *too* forceful/forced humour/in your face.
and yes, I can well see it being a deliberate public act in reaction to too many years of bad experiences, etc, but that doesn't change that it is hte only side of him I would ever see being as I am 'public'. and as much as I'm a trekky, that kind of personnality doesn't appeal, so I have no interest in going to view it in person (and I could have. he was in town a couple months ago. all I'd have to do is grit my teeth and deal with a crowd of too bloody many people... no. *I* choose not to. he chooses to do so even if uncomfortable. *his* choice. not mine to judge, but it IS mine to decide if I want to watch him cope).
and for same reason rarely watch interviews of him. I'm sure some interviewrs have him more.. calm/real, but... the others make me not want to watch.
stallone creates the same reaction in me. that said, interviews with statham (or the whole gang) besides him I can handle better. offsets him. just like I'm more likely to watch an interview with shatner and nimoy. they play off each other instead of him against hte camera.

That he does not want to talk to people? That he does not want fans to touch him for convention pictures?
if I'd heard of those things (and forgot) I sure as hell wouldn't use them to judge him. sound like perfectly logical things, to my introvert self.

Keeping up the spirits of a long hour TV sets with jokes.
yes, both jokers, agreed. but rick.. never gave off to me that captain-ish 'in your face I need to be at the front' vibe. humour and joking I'm fine with. even awkward, really, I can handle (Dan Shea for example). but I have a dislike for forceful types. they make my teeth grind.
and even the pretend-forceful therefor inherit a heavy dose of that complete lack of patience. doesn't mean I think anything bad of them or their skills or even their kindness. just means I don't want to be near them or exposed to them

There is quirkiness, and there is oddity,
again, all fine. Shea is definitely an odd duck.
..hell. so'm *I*! lol

I don’t want him to be made fun of.
yes. true for all.
..and that's part of why shatner, and stallone, make me flinch sometimes. to me, they push too much, in the wrong way.. and end up in a position I know damn well too many people will make fun. is a flaw in the people who find it funny to laugh at someone, but.. I still don't enjoy watching them put on that act (almost as little as watching the f---ing typeA MBA ass who owns my new company make his empty grand statements that do nothing but demean the people around him and accomplish nothing. it's just watching that attitude that drives me nuts).

I do really ponder that.
-shrug- as much as I wish him nothing but joy.. I really prefer to leave them to their own lives. if they choose to share some bit, fine. but beyond that.. I have no right to knowledge of their actual personalities. what they hand hte public is their call. how I, as hte public, take it.. is mine.
..lol, and what RPF-likeness I choose to have running through my head from time to time instead of completely imaginery friends.. is nothing to do with anyone's RL

generally considered as “fact”.
as far as it is the 'fact' of his public face, then yes, I am influenced by something that is incomplete. but he has no reason to make himself available to be actually gotten to know. even as much as even hte most obscure person will actually let you get to know them. we always therefor much judge people on the face they offer. not accurate or often fair, but.. no option, either.

[dieastra.livejournal.com]

I do remember that a few years ago he had a nasty problem with his foot and was in severe pain.. not so sure was something that was 'fixed'

The foot, and there was also a heart condition he told us about at Gatecon in 2008. How he felt funny in the chest after playing in the pool with Wylie, and when he went to the Doctor he asked him what would have happened if he went to a planned dive trip without seeing him first. "If diving more than 10 foot you would be dead now" he replied.

You really think that still bothers him? There was a time when he actually started to look better again.

Granted, I haven't watched many Shatner interviews, nor do I plan to, I can't possibly catch up with 40 years of them. But in his book he expressed puzzlement about how suddenly the people viewed him differently after he played a few roles in thee Nineties where he poked fun at himself, and all of a sudden was considered to be cool and have a sense of humor - when he says he's been like that all the time. The humor may be awkward or not, I also often make a joke nobody gets, but apparently it has always been there and is part of the personality. Not something put on.

I also admit that I don't really "get" his humor and don't understand most of his tweets, but I put that down to not being a native speaker and many things lost between the lines. I really don't plan to become a full fledged fangirl, I already have gone boldly enough where I never wanted to go before LOL

Shea is definitely an odd duck.
..hell. so'm *I*! lol

Me too ;) And proud of it. As long as you accept yourself, everything is fine.

I have no right to knowledge of their actual personalities.

I don't think a "Dallas, I look forward to the convention at the weekend" or afterwards "You were a great crowd, Dallas, thank you" would be too personal? Why not tweet some impressions from when he went to Australia, how he liked country and people? I am not asking for super secret personal things! Like, when all of a sudden there was this tweet coming from South Africa and everyone was wondering, why is he there and what is he doing?

What is a poor fan supposed to talk about all the time? No wonder the RDA forum has tumbleweeds rolling through.